s' zündet an?? Platinproblem oder nicht??

[damvdr]

Guten Abend, mein vienna s' zündet an, wenn l' man unterstützt auf dem Knopf geht Erlass. Welches kann l' sein; Ursprung ist es zwingend es platiniert " denn j' genauer und er n' angeschaut haben; dort scheinbar keinen gerösteten Bestandteil hat ". Der Strom kommt an, und die Sicherung ist gut. Danke für Ihre Hilfe. Grüße und tief betrübt für mein deutsch, denn j' benutzen Sie ein übersetzungsstandort. Ich kann auf französisch schreiben, ob Sie es begreifen!

 

[ksb]

Hallo damvdr,

kannst Du Englisch? Das Ergebnis der Übersetzung ist ...... unbrauchbar.

Gruss KSB

 

[damvdr]

Ok I post in English. Good evening, my saeco vienna dont fonctionne when the button "go stop" is pressed. J' checked, the current arrives and the fuse is not roasted. where that can it come? obligatorily of the turntable M5AV1-13 or elsewhere? thank you

 

[ksb]

1. 230VAC is available at "JP10" and "JP11" ?

 

[damvdr]

yes it's avaible

 

[ksb]

2. All Lamps are off?

 

[damvdr]

Yes, all Lamps are off

 

[ksb]

3. remove power cord (no power!)
4. check resistance of transformer primary coil (range 20k)
5. check resistance of transformer secondary coil (range 200 Ohms)

 

[damvdr]

I am not an electronics specialist but if you m' indicate exactly how to make I can do it. I unite you a photograph, can you m' to indicate where is resistances to test.
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[ksb]

OK - left: primary coil - right: secondary coil

 

[damvdr]

Ok it's located, I'm do not have a multimeter, I gets one tomorrow and I continue the discussion as of tomorrow, ok?

 

[ksb]

OK - until tomorrow evening.....

good night

KSB

 

[damvdr]

ok, good night also at tomorrow thank you

 

[damvdr]

Hi, I have a multimeter and I took measurements
4. check resistance off to transform primary coil (20k arranges) result: 2.36
5. check resistance off to transform secondary coil (arranges 200 Ohms) result: 84 (more I test more the figure goes down…)
thank you

 

[ksb]

The transformer seems to be defective

6. measure the voltage at the secondary coil (range 20VAC)

 

[damvdr]

Hi,
4. check resistance off to transform primary coil (20k arranges) result: 2.36
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I have just remade measurement 5
5. check resistance off to transform secondary coil (arranges 200 Ohms), measurement is stabilized at 14.5
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6: I must connect the machine or not? I positioned my tester as on the picture and I tested the secondary coil, measurement is 0 " not connected machine ".
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thank

 

[ksb]

For this measurement the machine must be connected (CAUTION!)

Switch your instrument to a Range like 300 VAC.

Measure primary voltage and secondary voltage.

Disconnect the machine after the measurement.

 

[damvdr]

I have connected platine it and have just connected the machine, the led function !! , the green one in top on the left s' light and it red flickers!! It is a progress! the problem is that when I actuate the button " go/stop" that not extinct step the machine…. I connected all wire well, below a photograph of my connection. Is this the good?
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I do not manage to give Brew group, the notch are not opposite, it is little-being for that that flickers, I did not put either water.

 

[ksb]

Hi damvdr,

for right connection see: http://www.saeco-support-forum.de/faq/Harry_DIR/Kabelanschl. Vienna platine.pdf (in german - sorry - please ask if something is not understandable)

Try to start the "test-mode" which allows you to test all functions: Testmodus Vienna (in german - sorry)

measure the resistance at the 4-pole motor-connector "yeööow-yellow-red-blue" (machine not connected to mains!)

regards

KSB

 

[damvdr]

Hi,
When I connect as on the picture p1030813 - Servimg.com - Free image hosting service , that seems to function, the leds is light, but when j' push the button " ON/OFF " that not extinct step the machine. I am on blue wire " 1" , it is the current one with fuse. J' then carried out tests by reversing in all the directions wire 2,3 and 4 but that functions, nothing s' light when j' push the button " ON/OFF ". Which is the correct connection because on this diagram Saeco Support Forum - Unsere Regeln the connections of the button " ON/OFF " are not indicated?? Thank you